I have not seen the city of Tulsa handle much right for years now.
You haven't either.
Have you driven around town lately? How many potholes did you hit?
Downtown is a mess. The arena is exactly what I feared this city would slouch toward.
It is the wrong project in the wrong place in the wrong city.
People are actually considering this river tax?
Our stinky, brown river is supposedly an attraction?
I'm all for smart city development, but gee, most of the studies commissioned to study this proposal will not even be finished by the time the vote comes to the public.
I'm sorry, but that is plain idiotic.
Is it too much to ask for some intelligence in our planning? I'm seeing a lot of hype and hoopla, plenty of smoke and mirrors, and precious little facts or truth.
And just who exactly is paying for all these moronic television ads trying to make you feel like you hate cute little children if you vote against this potential city-wide folly?
Somebody with deep pockets has a lot to gain from this project.
But don't look now; it ain't you or me.
(PS - Want more information? Tonight at 6:30, OSU-Tulsa is hosting a public forum on the ballot initiative. I confess I'm a wee bit skeptical, since the moderator, Ken Busby, is listed on the Vote Yes web site as a supporter claiming, "River development is critical to Tulsa county...," but maybe expecting a moderator neutral to the tax is asking too much...)
September 18 2007, 15:11:33 UTC 4 years ago
What would a rich person/entity have to gain from a project that is (according to some people) destined to fail?
I'm not trying to start a fight, that is an honest question.
September 18 2007, 15:32:09 UTC 4 years ago
I certainly don't claim everybody who supports the tax stands to gain from it, and I've no doubt many people think it is a great idea that will work.
I've notice many young professionals (I count myself as one) will support nearly anything that has the words progressive and development attached to it. I love both concepts, but I would like more details and reasoned debate before I support projects.
I especially note that the major environment study concerning the project will not wrap up until the fall. Why are we voting before that?
Whenever major money supports an initiative being rushed to the vote before the facts are clear, citizens should be very suspicious and demand more truth, facts, and discussion.
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
September 18 2007, 16:15:34 UTC 4 years ago
nevermind that it hasn't been approved by the corps of engineers...or that the wildlife department thinks it will screw up the ecosystem for miles and miles...
as one of those "young professionals" that this is supposed to benefit so much...i've never heard a peer that has left Tulsa claim that the reason they left is because there weren't enough pedestrian bridges or jogging trails. Crime rate, bad schools, lack of professional-level jobs - yes. And I know that they keep saying some ridiculous number like 9500 new jobs or something, but what types of jobs are they talking about - how is the plan as presented in their own information going to increase the job market by that level?
September 18 2007, 16:21:22 UTC 4 years ago
You're not supposed to do that.
We have to vote on this by early October, and there are millions of dollars at stake.
We simply don't have time to ask questions or to listen to explanations!
The kids NEED this...
:(
Shalom, y'all!
L. Bangs
September 18 2007, 17:01:58 UTC 4 years ago
September 18 2007, 19:24:00 UTC 4 years ago
How about we take all that money and try to make it a little safer to live in Tulsa! ...or better yet give our kids bus transportation to and from school, some after school programs and pay teachers what they are worth.
Seriously, is it even going to be safe to walk along the river by the time this is completed?
September 18 2007, 19:53:18 UTC 4 years ago
http://www.tulsaworld.com/TWPDFs/2007/F
:)